I will still use my other London tailor but certainly plan to include W&S in the rotation. Id start with Whitcombs offshore bespoke. Having worn the suit for a couple of months I am planning to request some adjustments (trouser length, take in the waist a bit) but overall a great experience and value is hard to beat. And hands out of pockets do allow a superior view of cut and style.. nice one. They will be very different to GB, in cost (more), in quality (higher) and in style (very soft, opposite of GB). Do you think W&S would still be a good choice and do you think they would accept these preferences or is their house style quite set? The pleat on the trouser is quite shallow which makes it not functional. These might include intricate monograms, unique button placements, or other personal touches that make the suit truly one-of-a-kind. Kind Regards One of your best suits in my opinion! If not Grahame Browne has changed his pricing? Permanent Style - Artisan of the Year 2021 New York 21-24 February 2023 There were two more fittings in NY with Bob (got the suit at the end of the second one). Subscribe to RR1 Live+ for exclusive virtual events all year long (at least 1 per month), conversations with Robb Report editors, special perks, and more. But as I live in Geneva, and Varese would not be such a long drive from here, would Sartoria Vergallo also be a great option for high-end bespoke at relatively good prices? He brings with him to Whitcomb & Shaftesbury his wealth of knowledge, skill and relationships with the trade to ensure the finest outcome in standing with his credentials. Now, the brand is returning to America for the first time in over two years, as are many British artisans. Coming up on the PS Shop this Autumn/Winter, Tailoring for travelling: tough, comfortable, plain, my post on the bespoke service at Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, Simonnot-Godard via Mes Chaussettes Rouges, Whitcomb & Shaftesbury RAF-blue suit: Style Breakdown, Artisan of the Year 2021: Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, Edward Sexton offshore bespoke tailoring. Thanks for your blog Simon! Includes access to the digital magazine. I also wouldnt say it will make any difference seeing them both at different points. I havent had a suit or jacket made in a while. I am not sure what it is made of but it is soft and plush. Someone asked that recently on the post announcing their US tour. Do you see any difference between Sian and John in terms of their eye and pattern and fitting quality (from what Ive read on the website, Sian seems to have a more modern style compared to John)? The lap seam is very much a bit of style flair and is probably worth doing without on your first suit. Thanks. I always try and relax and dont rush my fittings. Worth stating again perhaps that no judgments on fit should be made from photos. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The blue suitseems to be a popular choice for people in sales professions at the moment. Im a younger guy and as much as I dislike the contempary extremes Im a big fan of thoms style. She corrected my trousers and identified there was an issue straight away. I guess its about having the knowledge and confidence to get the most out of them and the process. Full disclosure: I did weigh 6kg more when I ordered the suit than I did at the first fitting. Incidentally, did you get a second (or third) pair of pants made and if so, what was the additional cost? The cut is lovely and lean, with the suppression of the waist accentuating the sharp style we were going for single button, more open foreparts, unflapped pockets, plus that lap seam of course. Just one point on pricing. Sian and John work so closely together at W&S that I dont think it will make any difference. We felt that lack of advice offered us a huge gap in the market.. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA Enterprise and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. The Classic Bespoke follows the same fitting process as our Savile Row Bespoke. If the later, have you seen any examples? My advice would be, as with any bespoke, to start simple and classic. Not for anything approaching a Neapolitan cut Stuart, no. I think youll be absolutely fine if thats what you want. I guess this is relevant to the greatest number of people in the context of a bespoke suit, and it would great to know what are the key points that should be thought about (choice of cloth etc.). Im going to order my first bespoke suit and I know your not supposed to wear it two days in a row and ideally once a week But then what do you wear for the rest of the week whilst your building your bespoke suit collection to the point you have 5 bespoke suits in rotation? B.) Any thoughts as to where I might find one? The shoulder fit looks (to me) the best of your suits on here. This one, or good value english tailors (for example grahame browne)? Having few things made by by Whitcomb now, would you recommend them for a first bespoke suit ? Like this article? All chests are hand felled and lapels and collars are hand padded. Im afraid its still some way off those at least in terms of finishing. Fit is very good and I find the level of make and finishing not too far behind my other English bespoke suits. Im looking at getting a first sportsjacket for casual wear made but the justification of 1500 for one despite the longetivity is negative. LOVABLE BROGUE. I ask because our access to Neapolitan tailors in Los Angeles is limited but I wanted something I could wear in summer similar to the way youve been wearing your charcoal G+H linen suit. Trousers Read More Heavy brown Brisbane Moss cords Trousers Read More The T-shirt under a shirt (and tailoring) Casual clothing Read More The style of a belted wrap coat - with Whit. Watch. I am planning to order my first bespoke suit soon. around 3000 but entirely made by them)? Classic bespoke, single breast in Minnis grey wool cloth 12/13oz. Do you think W&S is better value, better workmanship than Alexandra Wood ( do you know whether AW is bespoke proper, fully canvassed, basted etc ) ? Apologies if this is an obvious question. Im also based at Mortimer House, on the 6th floor. With over 400 years of accumulated experience on Savile Row, our master cutters and tailors take care of ensuring a perfect fit, creating the ultimate collaboration of design and craftsmanship. Graham Browne is GBP 1050 INCLUDING VAT, ie the difference in price is GBP 500, not 300 as stated in the comments. Just a suggestion! After much internet research and reading your recommendation I have taken the plunge with W&S. Hi Simon, quick follow up on the cloth and finding the right shade of navy for business. She is very kind and nice This looks perfect! Bravo Simon, you sound extremely pleased with it. I wouldnt go if you want that strong shoulder, no. I will give my jackets back to my W&S and Zizolfi for adjustment. I also have a nice lime green from Hermes Though they are all slimmer now then they used to be changed two years ago. And if the Italians with their inherent expressiveness dress brightly, boldly Read More, Mens accessories: the image of a man It is undeniable that the image consists of details. Both Suresh and Mahesh will be touring the U.S. between November 16 and December 1, visiting New York, Washington D.C., Boston, Los Angeles and then returning to New York. Normally I would have ordered the suit at the weight I normally am, not the higher weight. Hey Justin. When writing about the second suit might you include some further detail about the Cutter/Coatmaker and their views on what makes a good silhouette? And no, I dont think its appropriate for business. Simon quick question. As a footnote Shortlist today have an article on Penhaligons free fragrance profiling service. Have you read my post on the margins of bespoke generally? Hi Salvatore, Im attracted to the Classic Bespoke offering from W&S for a wedding suit but think I favour two button and slightly stronger shoulders. To commission a bespoke suit is the epitome of sartorial luxury. Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, Whitcomb & Shaftesbury is based on George Street in Mayfair, just a few paces from Savile Row, and offers two bespoke services: its Savile Row Bespoke service, which is made in the conventional fashion in on-site workrooms, and Classic Bespoke, which is cut in London and made in the brands workshop in Chennai, India. See how much you wear it and what you enjoy about it, at least for a while. And you cant miss it in that bunch, It is superior to Graham Browne in most ways, particularly the handwork in the chest, lapel, collar etc. Between them, this trio can bring to bear a huge range of different skills. As they are roughly in the same price range, I consider both of them for my first bespoke suit. And great work on the site, a unique and reliable resource! Your website is an amazing read. I dont have the cloth number, but I can get it. Following your review of W&S I have scheduled an appointment for their upcoming visit to NY. I agree building a relationship is a big part of it, yes. In terms of an every day style for work, would you so this would be more suitable than Edward Sexton? Thanks for your reply. From what Ive read on your blog and others, I think W&S are the superior tailor and Id rather compromise my style and get a better quality suit. Its a nice process but one that can take years as any full wardrobe upgrade would effectively do. It's still early days for the two suit, but signs are good that the Indian suit in particular (Whitcomb & Shaftesbury called it Classic Bespoke) will be a great value option for anyone looking to try bespoke for the first time. Solito, Dalcuore, Caliendo and Rubinacci (in ascending order of price! We wanted clients to be able to fit garments quickly while travel is open. So, if youre intrigued to try an impeccable bespoke tailor with impressive ethical credentials, you know where to go. If I request a little less drape, is the W&S suit then comparable to a Henry Poole or G&H suit? There is a lot of confusion about the difference between tailored and bespoke. Not necessarily more structured, but cleaner in the chest and different in other style aspects. Hi Sam knowing that W&S now have two cutters would it be wrong to ask for sian walton to cut more in the Thom Sweeney style ? Simon, have you tried a MTM service such as MyTailor in the United States? Do listen to the tailor when you talk about it as well. Im looking forward to commissioning a suit for my wedding next March. More on Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, such as John's background at Kilgour, in the first post here Its when the cutter is never present that you really have to worry. ), That means 3-4 visits for the first suit. How would you compare this to Grahame Browne given the close pricing? So essentially the questions are: The fact that the collar stands off and there is some collapsing in the jacket shows that this balance is not correct. This is a proper Savile Row suit. We now turn to the problems I believe the suit has. Hi Simon. Yes, shes been a cutter for about 10 years. Simon. Buttonholes are sewn with silk thread by hand. Thanks simon. Would you say W&S would be a sound option for someones first bespoke suit and if so, any advice on a maiden voyage such as this? Every aspect of the garment from the fabric to the style is customized and tailored for your unique body. Hi Simon, Permanent Style is the UK authority on classic and luxury menswear. It is another interesting approach. Just an idea. Every hem and lining felled by hand, buttonhole sewn with silk and trouser hand-sewn with curtained waistbands. Do you see this as suitable for business, or not so much? They opened first in Brunswick Square, in 1806, originally specialising in military tailoring, with particular merit at the time of the Battle of Waterloo. Did the tailoring being done on the subcontinent mean that the suit took longer to make compared to their S. Row Bespoke? It looks great. (Which one imagines is the standard 6-9 weeks. Do you recommend against a tuxedo as a first commission from a tailor? A) Its hard, and I think people do and should rely on reviews more for that reason. Give him a try; I dont imagine your will regret it. Youll have to contact them. This shouldnt really be surprising. Shoe and boot reviews, mostly of the high-end, British, Goodyear welted variety . Not necessarily if youll use it a lot it could be lovely. The idea was to empower women and make them the primary wage earners in their families. Photography: Jack Lawson. I ask because W&S have offered me the option of seeing Sian initially and then having John do the pattern and fitting later, but my instinct says it would make more sense to have the same person doing both. I must say that I sincerely couldnt be more pleased. Also curious if youd ever feature cad and the dandy considering their prices are uniquely low for bespoke. Should the button and buttonhole align when the jacket is unbuttoned? Im a student , Look up Graham Browne and Whitcomb on this site. I have to say at the first fitting was impressed at the quality / value. One thing I worry about is whether their business model and pricing is viable in the long term. My reason for the proposal is that i had a bespoke suit made by Whitcomb & Shaftesbury last year and i cant say i was impressed by their service, but i am also not sure if my expectations were set too high. Was planning to do so with W&S during their next trunk show. Also, is their normally a third fitting?. I was hoping that you might be able to recommend a particular type of fabric. I mean, top quality stuff for about a 1/3 of the price. Trousers are made entirely by hand, with hand-sewn curtained waistbands. The size is down to the tie thicker silk or lining for a bigger knot, a wider tie for a longer knot.. as Ive indicated in my comments on your Vergallo loden coat post, I will also be trying the W&S classic bespoke service for a winter flannel suit. Thank you for getting back to me. Although I agree, Simon, about expecting no artists or artisans, tailors or otherwise, to takes bribes that stretch their natural styles beyond zones of comfort/ experience but with W & S I clearly wasnt asking too much. Though no, its a noticeable but not huge difference to go for 11oz rather than 13oz, I have suits in both. Explore. It is just one mans opinion but going in I was definitely expecting more. Im thinking very seriously about commissioning a suit from W&S, using their Classic Bespoke service. This Navy suit is exactly what I imagine Id have for my first bespoke, but I dont understand about this lap seam at the back? The program helped to rehabilitate families whod had been affected by the tsunami, giving them new ways to earn a living, Suresh explains. I specifically dont want to blame either as certainly most clients are quite satisfied. This makes Whitcomb & Shaftesburys classic bespoke service most likely, though Sextons offshore bespoke service might also be an option. Its not that big, no, around 300 depending on cloth. Perhaps try Graham Browne. Im soon travelling to London, and am interested in a soft shouldered jacket or two. All garments are cut and made in workshops in the west end of London. Yes Stuart, Ill certainly do one. Id pick between the two on style more than anything else. People even complain when they find out some of the work is being done just off Carnaby Street, rather than in a basement off Savile Row. I just wonder if for something traditional and rarer like morning dress they would be able to help guide me through the process as well as A&S. 1 talking about this. More than Poole, but less than A&S. Yes, for the first-timer expectations can certainly be too high, which was the case for me. Interestingly, there is also quite a lot of drape to the chest something I like on my Anderson & Sheppard suits both for their comfort and impression of a bigger upper body. I assume she was one of the people that fitted you? hi Simon, very interesting article. Predominantly a Savile Row style or do they stray into Neapolitan construction as well? I have a coat in a pale wool that perhaps could have looked like a toile? Thank you and have a pleasant weekend. On the style questions, eg pockets, have you looked through the Suit Style series of posts? The width here is 3.75 inches. Free shipping for many products! Got it, thanks. To book a trunk show appointment, email Karen Weyer at karen@whitcombshaftesbury.com. No, the style is different in other ways too. Used to work with John at Kilgour, then at Thom Sweeney and at McQueen for a bit, So I presume you would have no hesitation in using W&S even if you were not working with John McCabe, Would you recommend W&S for a relaxed soft shouldered cashmere jacket to be worn with chinos and jeans? He values fit above everything, but as he does all the work himself, it is a very easy relationship. PS Presents 23: Arterton, LEJ, Marrkt, Fox and Rubato, Click on an image to enlarge. And I would also sound a general warning that getting a satisfying result when asking a cutter to do a different style than what theyre used to is very hard. Very best. The suit was very large in the shoulders, it had no shape in the body, but the first fitting is for the tailor, so I left it to her to do her job and I had lost some weight. Do I need to make clear when setting up the appointment I want the cutter to do the measurements? Hi Simon The fact this has happened with two tailors is odd, and the only thing I can think of is that maybe you stand rather unnaturally during fittings, eg very erect? Thanks Chris, thats always helpful, and yes absolutely, aware of how beneficial it would be. Have a look at our Suit style series for other advice too, Sorry if im asking something youve already been asked, but are there any other comparable offerings in this price range/overseas production for a first foray in to bespoke, or are W&S out there on their own in this regard. In other words, when you order a bespoke suit, youre effectively speaking for that piece of clothing telling the tailor exactly what you want it to look like and how you want it to fit.Bespoke suits are usually made from higher-quality materials than ready-to-wear or off-the rack suits, and theyre designed to last longer. Located in the heart of London's Mayfair district, Savile Row is home to some of the world's most prestigious men's fashion designers and tailors. I was able to travel to London to meet Sian for the basted fitting. What are your thoughts on Huntsman 100 (I think thats what its called right) anyway? What I also find interesting and perhaps would be an interesting point of discussion with a tailor is that even though my right shoulder drops, I dont think my right armhole should be lower. 11 St. George Street is a throwback to more elegant times. Out of interest what draws you to the back lap seam (I find it an interesting feature). Very compelling offering, thanks for covering. Yes I think so, it has a great feeling to it. Looks like ink blue solid from H&S classic worsted? Youre really in the market for made to measure, not bespoke. All bespoke has small margins and much higher production costs money spent on making, rather than selling. John doesnt go on all the trips, but I wouldnt worry too much about that as long as hes there for one or two of the fittings. Equally, as Im probably going to take the leap, if youd like any feedback from me on it, Id be more than happy to share. Quite affordable at $500/600 trousers. Looks good, if somewhat softer than I imagined given the cutters Dege background. Next Magento currency ins not converting and in all websites still the same ), Thanks for the recommendation of the neapolitan tailors. Also , Its great that you still bring your expertise to clothes within a lower price bracket .sometimes I think were losing you to the luxury market a little too much . The quality of his work surpasses anything I have had from the Row, or any of the big name French or Italian tailors often named here. Great service and advice. Thanks for this Simon. Thanks Simon. Ill reflect more on the overall style of Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, and where it sits relative to other tailors I have tried, when I publish the pictures of the Savile Row Bespoke suit. Advice on prospective colour would be welcome! I want to have a morning suit made. Do you know anything about her? In addition, the fitting of the trousers was really quite poor, yet the stand-in fitter (John was away) pushed me hard that they were fine. We decided to offer a hand-tailoring scheme, so John [McCabe] flew out to India and began to train local craftspeople to a Savile Row standard., The author in his corduroy suit and Donegal overcoat commissioned from Whitcomb & Shaftesbury. As a far-flung western Canadian from the provinces, Im not at all put off by the cheaper W & S option of having the finishing done in fellow former Commonwealth colony India; on the contrary, especially with their dedication to good training, fair trade, good wages, etc, I find this option not only economically attractive but also ethically admirable. They will often try to cater to different styles, but without a lot of experience of doing so. Its just that if any bespoke tailor spent as much as designer brands on marketing, advertising, shops etc, theyd be 50% more expensive. Every artist has their Read More, What is yachting. Wondered if you had any thoughts ? The twist of thread is 40 - that is for mass-market shirts; the fabric with a double twist (two ply) from 80 to 160, is used for high-quality high-quality shirts. Important stitching unfinished and then came undone. But different to an A&S drape cut, and very different to anything French or Italian. 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