He figured maybe one percent of these men would keep flicking the switches, up to the highest voltage. That's what's horrifying about it, but imagine they were administering pain to themselves. Yeah, members of his extended family did; certainly friends of his did. The Bad Show Listen Transcript Image credits: Adam Cole Cruelty, violence, badness. With help from Adam Cole, Rachel James, and Matt [Kielty 01:07:25]. Test the outer edges of what you think you know, Copyright 2019 New York Public Radio. I've just got the, uh, the data from the Milgram. ", Now you're saying actually that you could read that very dark fact as being actually evidence of something quite-, Well if you dressed up, and if you just had some minor variance to the paradigm you could, presumably, make this up. He has these pince-nez spectacles. I can't quite place him. Push button, get mortgage. The fact that he kept on doing it over, and over, and over again was like, "Come on.". And not just 'cause he was vain, which everyone agrees he was, but because he loves his country. The experiment requires that we continue. Okay, it's all right, but we've got to know that. Yes. Imagine how it feels to have an award-winning team by your side through the mortgage process. The questionnaires they filled out are part of the Milgram archive at Yale. And oddly enough, we came- got a really interesting take on the true nature of badness from this guy. And not to everybody's taste. I- I know it was more than [inaudible 00:59:44]. I knew she had a daughter and-. Then he goes and, you know, and celebrates that. In that why, in that one simple why that he asked Gary, there was a lot of questions he was asking. 1933 comes and Hitler takes over. So, I'm just going to go into this other room over here. Come over now.". She expressed disapproval about his clothing choices. This has allowed the world to have 7 billion people. Get $50 towards select mattresses by visiting casper.com/radiolab and using code radiolab at checkout. Okay. They will spare his son if he fesses up and- and tells them what they need to know. I left him, went home. Like, you can't throw that air onto a plant (laughing). He didn't really want to cop to everything that he did. We thought that maybe as- as we turn a corner ourselves, we should refresh. Like, you walked into the room, what- what do you find? And give up the few details that they really needed to link him certifiably to all his crimes. But this is why this is such an interesting guy, around the same time, officials in the U.S. government are calling him a war criminal. Yes, it's awesome, thank you, Ben. Scattered One dead dad. They're trying to do the right thing. I mean, that was makebelieve, but if you could somehow get a real Iago in the room and subject that person to questioning, and really get him to sort of fess up as to why they did it, would that make a difference? This is Radio Lab, and today elements. That's historian, Fritz Stern, who also happens to be Fritz Haber's godson. Because actually, he studied between 20 and 40 different variants of this same paradigm. And that's all the difference in the world. So he decided he was going to invent a process to pay for these reparations by himself. He takes over leadership of this institute in Berlin, and he starts hobnobbing with a whole different level of society. Yeah (laughs). The fourth product is-. Leaving his son alone with his dead mother. And when nitrogen and hydrogen bond together, the thing you get-. So there's a way in which there's a touch of spark of humanity. But- but there's part of me that says, you know, here's a guy who just wanted to do everything better than had ever been done before. "I need to kill because of that." The thing is that I do have a new boyfriend, but my ex-boyfriend doesn't know that yet, and I'm terrified that he'll do what he says. ", And the class ended, and I went back to my office, and I just sat at my desk, and I started reading these. Our main story is the haunting tale of a chimp named Lucy. And the infinity of gray spaces in between. Next, we meet a man who scrambles our notions of good and evil: chemist Fritz Haber, who won a Nobel Prize in 1918around the same time officials in the US were calling him a war criminal. All right. Rocket Mortgage by Quicken Loans. Sort of unsportsmanlike. In December of 2001, my father and his colleagues-. Alex Haslem, Professor of Psychology at the University of Exeter. And 84 percent of the women. But if you think that's the right thing. He recruited a bunch of subjects-. And he was wearing a fur coat-. Because you are sullied by them. The reason why he's telling all this stuff is because he has cut a deal. And as soon as it did, soldiers began to convulse. Really? Okay, well actually the one thing that the study really doesn't show is that people obey orders. He's working with chemicals. And on their skins, as on the bark of trees, have with my knife carved in Roman letters, 'Let not your sorrow die, though I am dead.'". So, these are some word pairs. He said that if I ever had a relationship with another man, he was going to send videos of us having sex to all the people in my university. In Seattle today a man called the Green River killer-. That's one of the things we have to know, and that's why it's okay to let it out. Then, we reconsider what Stanley Milgram's famous experiment really revealed about human nature (it's both better and worse than we thought). I think I call it [prince-nez 00:28:23], so I'm not sure. The fourth prod is. Next, we meet a man who scrambles our notions of good and evil: chemist Fritz Haber, who won a Nobel Prize in 1918around the same time officials in the US were calling him a war criminal. Yes. I just needed to kill because of that. Okay. I got those all at night, mostly. We will begin with this test-. He brings her up as an example of a woman that he actually had strong feelings for. Go. Like, "Oh my God. According to James, he's not the baddest in Shakespeare or in life because ultimately the play offers up a reason for his nastiness. It's about 1880. Enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. [2] And they go, "Why?" [crosstalk 00:17:42], It's the experimenter-. That guy yelling of course was an actor and the shocks weren't real, but the questions in the air at the time were very real. Two more minutes. All right, so I'm going to talk to you over this intercom, okay? He didn't really want to cop to everything that he did. And, you know, the class ended and I went back to my office. Well the thing that haunts me about the why question is that I'm reminded of one of the oldest stories in the Bible, which is the story of Job. And then, the final one. Hi, my name's Josh and I'm calling from Harlem, New York. If the experiment had to be successful, it had to be carried on.". So, Sam what happened to this guy after World War I? A liquid that has captured the nitrogen right out of the air. If any sizeable fraction actually acted on their homicidal fantasies, the streets would be running- running red. You know, he's a man adrift. That's radio producer Ben Walker. Right? That's where they're heading towards. It has enough what they used to call then solar energy. Each answer just begs another why. Yes. I don't know that you could entirely call him bad, I might even tilt towards saying he's a little good, to be honest. Okay. I'm [Clemmy Buttonhill 00:26:56], I'm here to tell you about the Open Airs Project, the new podcast form WNYC studios and WQXR, in which people share stories about the classical music that gets them through their lives. And what he decided to do is go into the ocean, into sea water, which contains very small levels of gold. Radiolab Presents: More Perfect - The Gun Show 69:05 : Feb 23, 2018: The Curious Case of the Russian Flash Mob at the West Palm Beach Cheesecake Factory 00:00:00 : Feb 19, 2018: Smarty Plants 34:54 : Feb 13, 2018: Ghosts of Football Past 36:40 : Feb 3, 2018: Radiolab Presents: More Perfect - One Nation, Under Money 55:04 : Jan 31, 2018 So, as we begin this episode of the Bad Show, check out The Blank Slate by Steven Pinkner, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. And we end with the story of a man who chased one of the most prolific serial killers in US history, then got a chance to ask him the question that had haunted him for years: why? I got it in front of me, I've just got the data from the Milgram study. Now, as we sort of know in life, lots of things that we if they're worthwhile doing, they're not always easy. How many of them went into that kind of detail? I liked her. Birds would just fall from the air. Like shocking an innocent stranger over and over. Was he grappling with something? He takes a trip to Switzerland to a sanatorium. Then a few months later, he started calling me trying to get back together, but I didn't want to. 'cause actually he studied between 20 and 40 different variants of this same paradigm. There's a lot of black and white thinking happening right now. And even though in the end they got him to confess to these 49 murders, they never really get any closer to an answer than this first why. The Bad Show.ogg download. God, I feel like we haven't, you and I sat together and said our names in quite some time. No. That's like an adult blue whale of chlorine. He figures out a way to take a lot of air that's filled with these little nitrogen bonds clinging to each other, and pump it with big iron tank. He was trying to repeat this masterstroke. The expectation is somebody is made to make his peace with his maker before he dies. So, at a time when there are people all over our country eyeing other people all over the country and thinking, "She's bad. And this particular story, it comes from a book that David wrote. Within minutes, the gas reached the allied side. It's a pretty (bleep) thing to miss, isn't it really? On the other hand, if anyone can do it-. According to James, he is not the baddest-. He is- he wants to feed- he wants to feed Germany. What's the noble cause in this case? And I- I killed her. Making him the most prolific serial killer in American history. In- in other words, nitrogen has really strong attachments to itself. He figured maybe 1% of these men would keep flicking these switches up to the highest voltage, but that's not what he found. And I think what we want out of the why is meaning. And he says, "Because of the rage." Carries electric shocks. So, you see, it's just in that one experiment that 65% of people are willing to go all the way. We want what Elizabethan's got at the scaffold, which was a confession. That I remember picking her up and-. Nice job? Bread from the air was the phrase 'cause Haber had figured out a way to take nitrogen from the air, put it into the barren ground, and grow wheat. No reason. The subjects of 40 males between the ages of 20 and 50. Fritz Haber's a professor, small university. Although, clearly, on some level they know it isn't. A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of. [inaudible 00:06:31], Well not horrified, it was I pretty stunned. The one that everybody knows, the so called baseline. The son, eventually, after he emigrates to America kills himself. By the way, that's reporter [Latif Nassar 00:30:59]. We asked, "Who do you think about killing?" I don't know, I can't help but feel bad for the guy. in this episode we begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and . Because it takes such energy and pressure to separate it This trivalent bond is so strong that when it comes back together, that energy that's released, it could be used for life or death. Gary said, "I needed to kill them," they go, "Why?" Jeff Jensen's book is the Green River Killer: A True Detective Story. Check out the Blank Slate, a book by Steven Pinker, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. radiolab-archive. And he is basically homeless at this point. That was just for those of you haven't heard it yet, this is a kind of a rush through a- through sex reproduction. My name's Benjamin Walker and here are some Radiolab credit. But if you put two experimenters in the room, and-. Um, with a black belt in karate. Radiolab - Transcripts Subscribe 187 episodes Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. Nitrogen is an essential part of amino acids and proteins. So, he starts experimenting. Any time the experimenter said, "You must continue" the shocker would say, "Hell no, I don't.". New York Public Radio transcripts are created on a rush deadline, often by contractors. Sounds insane. No. RadioLab is supported, in part, by the National Science Foundation, and the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. ", He actually threw a dinner party in celebration-. They will invariably say something like, "They show that people obey orders." Did members of Haber's family die in the concentration camps? You know, just because of a mathematical summing up. He walked out of the room and just started weeping. On the other hand, if anyone could do it-. Well,the experiment requires that you continue. And he believed it. I'm good. He would obscure. We just got to get ov- get out of it where-. My father's trying to, like, reach out to him. We realize this is hard work, but what you are doing is for the good of Germany. And also a scientist. I knew what he was capable of, so I suggested that we go out for a walk and I, basically, spent the next half hour walking around with him trying to cool him off. Especially because she found out he was leaving the next day to direct more gas attacks. With a history of industry leading online lending technology developed in the heart of Detroit, Rocket Mortgage is changing the game. Only then does God speak up and kind of say like, "You're going to question me? The Green River murders terrorized Seattle in the 1980s. 450 volts every shock now? Well, you know, you can see that's a good thing. September 15, 2022 Radiolab for Kids and WNYC Studios present Terrestrials, a six-episode miniseries hosted by Lulu Miller (co-host of Radiolab . The whole thing happened several years ago. 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