PPQ-M2 9mm stock is ready to go. The version of the PPQ with a slightly longer trigger reset is called the VP9. Its single action only. The other surprise was how comfortable it felt in my hand. It feels very good and the reset is wonderful. But nope. That said, as long as you have your fundamentals down, you won't have any problem quickly reloading your Walther PPQ. Since I bought it I carry nothing else. Recommend to clean the gun every 300 rds. This was my first Purchase of a Walther Firearm. I bought the long barrel with the compensator in about 2006. Hit, hit, hit, hit its borderline silly. I personally do not want to own a firearm from a Company that will not stand behind their product. 2500 rounds no issues. Ive contacted Walther and the gun dealer, well see what they say and do. Well Ive had this issue as well. PPQ M2 4-INCH 9MM Field Test. (Thats all I brought with me.) The pressure generated by a .22 lr just doesnt require thicker steel. The corrective measure for this issue is replacing the guide rod assembly. I debating between a PPQ and VP9sk and Im like my daughters at the shoe store as to which one I should get. Its a marked improvement over any other pistol Ive ever fired Not a single failure of any sort since taking it out of the box when it was brand new. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. However, if the PPQ stands the test of time and finds favor with the American shooting market, I suspect (and dearly hope) that Walther will little by little introduce new accessories and add-ons over the years. Solid pistol for teaching first-timers (pending your opinion on manual safeties). This new PPS M2 also has front cocking serrations and as mentioned a quick-response trigger. Jeremy is TTAG's Deputy Editor, working mostly behind the scenes but, when he attempts to write, he focuses on comprehensive gun & gear reviews. If it keeps up I'm going to have a gunsmith look at it. My wife told me to buy her a new one, thats why I read this review. and reblued it, PRO-BONO!!! Ergonomics: * ** * Walther PPQ M2 Tungsten 9mm. One observation I found the medium grip felt the best in my hand, however, I only got acceptable target hits with it I switched to the larger palm swell it did not feel as comfortable as the medium ones but it became a tack driver! I prefer the medium backstrap that comes fitted on the gun myself, though I assume people with larger or smaller hands will favor the large and small backstraps respectively. The rounds seem to eject and feed fine, looking at the ejection port when the slide is stuck doesnt seem to reveal any issues there. I was missing a .22 in my collection, I am Very Happy I chose this pistol. I traded in my Glock 19 for a PPQ M1 in 9mm, I chose the paddle release as I do not have to alter my grip to release a magazine. Im curious though, at 15ft+ I can still get a nice group, but it is always a bit higher than where I actually aim. Just to rule out limp-wristing or any issues with grip, have you had someone else shoot it? Weight w/ Empty Mag: 24.4 ounces. Walther PK380 just points and shoots, very easy. . My PPQ classic 9mm is about four years old with several hundred rounds down the pipe. A MIL-STD-1913 Picatinny rail comes standard on the dust cover. It has proven to be a very accurate pistol at 20 feet. I had more or less discounted this entire segment of the market. Ordered another Black mamba. When you get a 9mm with muzzle flip like a 45, the only advantage youre left with is capacity. They are available with a 4-inch and 5-inch barrel, or the 4.6-inch that comes suppressor-ready. While by no means am I attempting to trash GLOCK, the only advantage I can think of that the G19 has over the PPQ is availability of aftermarket parts and accessories. Eh, just another GLOCK copy, you say? Considering how good that gun was, it was clear I had to get my hands on Walthers .22 LR version of the PPQ. The P22 only good point was that during any use, you could repeatedly practice malfunction drills, that is if the slide did not fracture. I recently purchased a Walther CCP M2, primarily due to the touted recoil reduction of the gas delayed action as well as the nice grip and stainless slide. If they have the same problems I'd contact Walther and send it in. Have had the same issues with mine. It has serious carry problems, as I learned. Should be back today, so hopefully it works. Deformed parts: One cause is that the magazine or pistol is broken, the slide stop lever is broken, or the magazine tube is deformed. And so on. The PPQ is a very simple design in the vein of GLOCKs, and the few controls on the pistol are right where you need them to be. Impact on the plate is clearly heard each round meeting the target with force. My strong preference is for copper plated bullets though as it limits your exposure to lead. However, the normal PPQ .22 mag is a 12-rounder, which does set it apart from the very much industry standard 10-round capacity. I ran a couple of strings of M-22 (one of their preferred ammo types), CCI 1200 and 1640 FPS, and a Remington 1200 FPS without any problems, so it appears the earlier problem is gone. Below mentioned is the cause of this malfunction and its fix. Great review. Despite being a complete gun, with a street price of like $310 to $340 the PPQ .22 is actually less expensive than many conversion kits. Here is the disassembly process for the PPQ: 2. I have yet to hear any major reliability issues from other people as well. Due to the thinness of the top of the slide the foot at the base of this screw needs to be as large as possible. Its from: http://www.spitzlead.com/ I have NOT yet shot any rounds through it so cant comment on it other than its pretty funny . Below are the causes of this problem and their solutions. (I never tried mini mags, I assume those would work well, too.). ; Bang Pull the trigger. Dead round: When the round doesnt fire on ejecting out, and you see a good dent on the primer, the chances are that the round is dead. Its all going to come down to trigger really. I love my PPQs. There is nothing dangerous about dry firing the pistol to disassemble. easy to rack the slide, easy to eject the mag, and easy to operate the safety. Looks like that one would not get in the way of the sights? Capacity:12+1 With the hammer down theres more resistance to cycling the slide, but its still quite a bit less than on your typical centerfire pistol. Failure to feed means that the cartridge is stuck moving from the magazine into the barrel when you pull the trigger. Haven't had any of these issues with mine. Next, and my biggest issue with this gun is that the slide is consistently fails to return to battery or is delayed by half a second or so. As a .45-aholic, I once felt compelled to add a 9mm item. Don't count on finding any. You have entered an incorrect email address! Ive not been back to the range since my second opportunity, where I used the M22 and the two CCI types, therefore I cant say more than I did in my update on November 2nd. Here we have confirmation of the lack of trigger discipline that comes with using a modern pistol. Is this normal or did I get a bad gun? This trigger compared favorably to the PPQ triggers and their smooth and easy to operate triggers. There is about a hundred dollars more for the FN 502. And its not a lack of trigger discipline. In many ways, the P99 is everything the GLOCK isand then some. Walther PPQ Problems and their Solutions. I have put (my estimate) about 50,000 rounds through it. The gun looks and feels great, but I've had nothing but issues shooting it. I thought maybe it was a lemon gun, so I did some extensive Interweb searching and found numerous forums where others had the same complaint. Walther PPQ. You have to replace the entire magazine to fix this problem because once the feed lips on a steel magazine bend, they dont bend back the same way. Hmm not making that clear in the review was definitely an oversight. I really dont want to let her go. I personally do not find much difference in the 2 guns when shooting and both are dead on accurate. This, coupled with the comfortable grip, means that I am in full control of this pistol when firing. Good review. Every gun has an Achilles heel, and for the PPQ its the limited number of aftermarket accessories. It doesnt bother me any. Am I bad for preferring the PPQ M1 paddle mag release? Gun Manufacturers would sell a lot more .22 guns if Ammo Suppliers could keep up with the demand for .22 ammo. I just bought a PPQ M1. A notch will engage the slide stop when you have an empty magazine, and the last round comes out. At a pretty consistent 4.25 lbs, the trigger requires just a bit less force than the 9mm PPQ we tested, which came in at 4.75 lbs. reminder: this is not a new pps m2 recall. I got one of the new VP9s, it is good, but I still carry the PPQ. I love the gun but for me thats its down fall, even worse now that ammo is hard to get. If so, stop shooting it, and call Walther. I am happy with this. The PPK/S .22 has a small barrel sleeve that fits over the end of its threaded barrel. At any rate, they managed to do it with a minimal change to trigger quality and feel. Walther has a great warranty. Please Wait. Until I see shelves consistently stocked full of bricks, I wouldnt consider buying another .22. A lot of people seem to complain about a sharp recoil, muzzle flip? This gun feels really solid for a polymer framed pistol. Because if such a thing exists, Id like to get some and try it in my Ruger 22/45. I had a choice of the M1 or M2. Dirt or obstruction in striker channel: If there is dirt or any other obstruction in the striker channel of your PPQ, it will fail to fire. It has quickly gained a reputation for being a fast and ergonomically focused firearm. I bought my dad a nice custom leather paddle holster for Fathers day, and although the shop only had a mold for a P99 it fits perfectly. The single-action striker trigger helped make the shots consistent each time. The Walther PPQ . I did not expect much out of the trigger but after the first couple of shots I discovered that the trigger was what set this gun apart. Everything is not only right where I naturally need them to be, the controls on this pistol are fully ambidextrous or reversible. If you love to wear hoodies? The firing pin has nothing to do with your problem. I do like the gun, and purchased it because its the only one Ive found that my arthritic-handed wife can use. Sometimes, this can happen when you take the sear housing assembly out of the pistol frame, and the trigger bar guide will come apart from the sear housing. I made three attempts with Customer service. I spanked her with Trijicon HDs and carried her in a Black Mamba and felt that we could now rip the knob off the radio dial! Then next day slide completely locked with Tulammo 115. Actually, Joe is still enjoying it since he couldnt bring himself to return the loaner and decided, instead, to purchase it. The review mentions jacketed round nose and jacketed hollow point ammunition. I have 2 M&P 40s, full size and compact, but wanted a decent 9. From My personal experience, That Legendary Walther Warranty they advertise is not worth the paper it is printed on!!!. Since I am extremely happy with my 9mm PPQ, will I be satisfied enough with the 5 barrel on the PPQ .22LR regarding accuracy? I see that as getting use to the trigger. The latest generation is now called the P22 Q and comes in a bunch of colors and variants. Simply pop the pin out with an Allen wrench or a screwdriver and the backstrap will pull right off. Not machined aluminum. What's more, the PPQ M2 has been updated with a new traditional reversible mag release button. My thumbs just arent long enough to use most grip-mounted mag release buttons without shifting my grip. The momentum of the gun dropping back after recoil can be enough to cause ones finger to bump the trigger 0.1 inch and cause it to fire. Must admit it would be used primarily for steel plate shooting so the 5 is probably the better option. Check the chamber to confirm the pistol is unloaded. Fit & Feel Its run great for over 10k rds. As for comparing triggers, all 1911 are single-action, and PPQ is a double-action pistol, you remember that, right? I gotta pay my rent too you know, jerks. I have had a completely different experience with Walther P22s. Thanks for the info. In the box you will find one magazine. . The PPQs trigger is in the same style of a GLOCK; the pistol will not fire unless the drop safety is pulled. Also, once it is bent, you can not straighten it back. Why this happens is mentioned below. On the plus side when compared to a .22 conversion slide, the PPQ route is a complete pistol so it isnt just a paperweight when it isnt installed on your frame (which then, of course, turns your centerfire upper into a paperweight). The Walther P22 was one of the original semi-auto .22LR handguns and has been satisfying shooters since 2002. It was by far the lowest quality worst and most unsafe firearm I have ever owned. Everything was aces with the Element 2 that I wont be able to pick up for a few more months, and as you can see in the video it also ran flawlessly with it and was nice and quiet to boot. Each time I had several unintentional double-taps. When I first bought the pistol, I initially struggled with getting the take down catch to push down correctly, but after a few tries I got the hang of it. PPQ navy has excellent ergonomics for self-defense. I have both, but I prefer the PPQ, for its trigger. I had a P22hated it.said id never buy another Walther.bought this one LOVE IT..it is not a P22. Update to my previous post (under my full name): After cleaning it again and using some of Walthers preferred ammo it is working fine. Just like we said in the 9mms review, it feels freaking awesome in the hand. And i also say that once the 3 stage trigger is mastered on the P99 it operationally is better than the PPQ. MSRP:$429 for 4, $449 for Tactical, and $469 for 5. 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